#4 Jim Beam (W)
vs.
#5 Rebel Yell (L)
Recorded on June 9th, 2018, in Nate’s studio
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We aren’t experts–or connoisseurs or authorities or savants or aficionados. We definitely aren’t doing things the “right way.”
We just had a question, and we’re finding the answer. The knowledge we are gaining through this process is staggering–about bourbon, but also about podcasting and hosting a website. Our old teachers were right–learning CAN be fun!
It’s fun–it’s a hobby. And we’re gonna keep doing it.
Scroll through the post to see some additional information about things (and stuff) we talked about during the episode.
**Corrections to the podcast are below. Oops!**
Episode Notes
- Marc’s a cool guy. A Renaissance man–farmer, luthier, musician, father, husband, craftsman, fine carpenter, winemaker, brewer–just to name a few.
- Mathematically speaking, we didn’t need a tie breaker, but…what if we had abstained from voting? Or couldn’t decide? Going to be interesting if that happens…
- PA owns the retail spirit sale stores throughout the entire Commonwealth.
- We actually can’t verify WHERE the Banker’s Club is distilled. They may actually source their bourbon from Kentucky–I shot them an email to find out.
- It poured on the second day of our canoe/kayak trip. Nate was sitting in the bow of the canoe and Matt was in the stern–and Matt kept asking him “what’s the weather up there?” It was always raining.
- Here’s the Rebel Yell swag bag. It actually worked really well for carrying the “Mystery Bourbon”.
- Corks vs. Twist top–a debate that rages on.
- Jim Beam is the best selling bourbon in the world–but is still only the third largest whiskey in sales, behind Jack Daniels (#1) and Suntory (#2).
- Fred Minnick’s book “Bourbon Curious” is an excellent read. “The proof, age, and whiskey type are about the only things you can trust on an American whiskey label.”
- Here’s a copy of James B. Bean’s signature. These signatures were a bid deal before the Bottled in Bond Act of 1897.
- Fred Noe III is the current master distiller of Jim Beam.
- What’s a long year? Or a short year? Kids sure do make time go faster.
- Cinnamon is a flavor that is common flavor for bourbon. Jim Beam in particular has this. But don’t confuse this with the Kentucky Fire flavored whiskey they sell.
- Here’s some proof of the identical mash bills for both Old Crow and Jim Beam bourbons, from Modern Thirst.
- Tariffs on bourbon could seriously hurt the industry.
- Printzhof Distillery has been quite kind to us on social media. Can’t wait to try their bourbon!
- The Beam Family is indeed pervasive in the industry, as the #2 Heaven Hill was also started with a Beam.
- Jim Beam claims to be using the same yeast for 75 years.
- Marc wondered jokingly about what pond water would do. This company claims that water does indeed matter!
- Single Malt Scotch may need less water for the pour the older it gets.
- The “Angel’s Share” describes the stuff that evaporates–it could be alcohol or water, depending on the humidity of the region.
- We all love(d) Anthony Bourdain. **sigh**
- Here’s the article from Bazaar that Matt read from.
- Elba is a small island on the west of Italy.
- Wine hangovers can be particularly bad.
- Rebel Yell may be marketed for millennials.
- Here’s an image of John Wayne drinking whiskey from an old school bottle.
- We wondered if the order in which we are tasting these whiskeys mattered. Here’s some discussion.
- Could Banker’s Club actually clean riverwater? No, according to this discussion….
- Buffalo Trace makes a whiskey called White Dog.
- Frank the Gargoyle picture! He’s a whiskey fan!
- Some discussion on how whiskey opens up just being exposed to the air.
- Sam Adams’ pint glasses were pretty cool–and gimmicky.
- JTS Brown was an option for this bracket–but we couldn’t find it! The man on the bottle really was influential in the industry though!
- Here’s a great picture of the Old Crow label.
- Old Crow Medicine Show’s name is straight from the whiskey.
- Minnick’s book (mentioned above) also contains this quote: The introduction said “The marketer’s narrative tends to own the marketplace of bourbon thought. “
- Some pictures of posters of Mark Twain and Old Crow.
- Danica Patrick’s wine is supposedly good. And she did wreck in her last race, sadly.
- Reusing yeast for several generations will change the flavor of beer, for sure.
- The Dogfish Head brewing CEO, Sam Calgione, and the show on the Discovery Channel was cool.
- I just couldn’t find what distillery asks what’s new. Ugh. I swear I didn’t make it up!
- The brewery in Meadville, PA is called VooDoo–and you need to drink some of their beer.
- Killers are a great band.
- Tool’s Maynard Keenan does make some good wine.
- Patrick Rothfuss and George RR Martin are both successful authors.
- Jeff Tweedy’s influence on Wilco is all-encompassing.
- Leave it to Marc to bring in the farmer’s quote–“came fresh“.
- Marc’s description of “the arc” of a taste is a unique thing.
- Pop Art, explained much better than what Matt did.
- Bag of Cat Litter art–still stretches the notion of what art is, doesn’t it?
- Jackson Pollock was a giant in the 1950s.
- Bulls are stillpierced by rings. And can be laid down. (Marc’s farmer knowledge comes in again…)
- Price for Pollack’s paintings are ridiculous.
- Most expensive bottles of bourbon.
- Kentucky legislature passed the “Bourbon Without Borders” bill.
- Nate did well with his guess–2nd guess from a bag in the woods after 20 beers is pretty good!
Site Mentions in the Episode
**Corrections**
(what we said vs. what we should have said)
- Called the “malt” ingredient in whiskey “malted wheat”. It’s “malted rye”–not wheat!
- Said that the Old Crow Medicine Show song from their first self-titled album was “Cocaine.” But it’s actually called “Tell It To Me”.
- Said that the Brewmasters show was on the History Channel. But it was actually on the Discovery Channel.
- Called the bill that Kentucky passed “Make Whiskey Free Again.” It was actually called “Bourbon Without Borders.”
Technical Notes
We recorded this episode on a Blue Yeti Pro microphone. We had it set to cardioid pickup pattern, even with the three of us. In Nate’s studio, it’s a really great, quiet room for this. I’d still like to get a few more microphones going, but that $$ isn’t quite in the budget yet, heh.
The podcast was recorded directly into–and edited using–Audacity, a free open-source audio editing software. It served our purposes and worked well.